Expose The Hypocrisy


June 02, 2008
Proposed State Pension Increase Would Cost Billions...

...and those billions would be paid for by the lucky taxpayers of Massachusetts.

Massachusetts lawmakers are proposing bigger pensions for state and municipal employees that could cost $6 billion or more, according to some estimates, triggering a chorus of complaints from fiscal watchdogs and local leaders who say the money is not there to pay for it.

The union-friendly, election-year maneuvers by the House and Senate would increase the annual cost-of-living adjustments that retirees receive as part of their pensions.

The individual numbers are seemingly small, a boost of about $120 a year more for every retiree, which advocates say is well-deserved. But multiplied by over 100,000 former teachers and state workers in the state's pension system as proposed by the House and by 86,000 municipal retirees as envisioned in a Senate amendment, it would add up fast, say critics.

"It's a tremendous gesture, but the money doesn't exist," said Mayor Scott W. Lang of New Bedford, who says he would have to lay off six current employees to make it work for the city's 1,721 retirees. "I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever of bumping that to meet the inflationary needs, but there's no funding. Without the funding it's illusory."

Over the next several weeks, the provisions will be the subject of negotiations in House-Senate budget conference committee meetings, which largely takes place behind closed doors.

If the behind closed doors part doesn't bug you enough, here's the real kick in the pants:
Public employee pension and healthcare costs have been at the center of debate over Proposition 2 1/2 tax override votes in communities across the state. But Senator Marian Walsh, a Democrat from West Roxbury who led passage of the legislation in the Senate, said that "this has been a very open, transparent discussion."

Open and transparent? Just how are committee meetings behind closed doors open and transparent?

The bottom line is is this passes, Massachusetts taxpayers are going to pay a big price for Beacon Hill kowtowing to unions -- which this state does so well.

The state is considering the new spending as it is already raiding its rainy-day fund, raising some taxes, and looking for cuts to balance the budget while repairing crumbling roads and bridges. It also comes as pension payments are being pared back by corporations across the nation.

But advocates and lawmakers who drafted the legislation say Massachusetts' public retirees deserve to have their pensions updated. "They should receive a cost of living that more adequately reflects inflation," said Representative Frank Hynes, a Democrat from Marshfield and chief advocate of the House legislation.

"It's $10 a damn month; that's all it is," said Ralph White, president of the Retired State, County and Municipal Employees Association of Massachusetts.

The legislation, which was added as amendments to the budget, would still have to be approved by all members of the House and Senate, who are running for reelection this year.

With Democrats running the show in the legislature, this pension increase seems destined to be passed... but will Deval Patrick, who has been at odds with the legislature, sign it or not?

If it passes, it would present a major test for Governor Deval Patrick. Patrick campaigned in 2006 against passing laws for special-interest groups but also counts unions among his key supporters. Patrick, through his spokesman, said the issue is in conference committee and has yet to come to his desk.

The pension increase for state employees alone would cost between $3.8 billion and $8 billion over 20 years, according to the Pioneer Institute, an independent nonpartisan think tank. A separate Senate amendment allowing municipal retirees to opt in would cost cities and towns at least $2 billion, according to the Massachusetts Municipal Association.When will the voters of Massachusetts learn?

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The Pioneer Institute gave us the biggest waste of taxpayer $$$ in Mass. history ($30billion and counting)...it's called ED REFORM! Plus their former employees are milking the Charter chool system which is another rake-off of taxpayer $$$. With friends like them....Don't you love this race to the bottom? Remember when companies had pensions? Now the neocons, living behind their secured gates, not only are pension killers but they are prowling in the dark conspiring to take everyone's SS $$$...that old saying comes to mind "you can never be too rich or too thin" was it THE MITTSTER,BIG RED or V who said that?

Posted by: Mr. X at June 3, 2008 08:57 AM


Mr. X (since you called me in here....),

It was Wallis Simpson, Duchess of Windsor who made that statement (and she was a big elite lib).

Funny how you call something like ed reform the "biggest waste of taxpayer $$$ in Mass. history", while the Big Dig boondoggle fed your beloved unions for years. You hate ed reform because the MTA tells you to.

And where did the "$30billion and counting" come from anyway? Out of your imaginary "fact factory"?

Companies had pensions when they could afford to fund them Mr. X. Now they can not. There are many reasons for that, not the least of which is salary and defined benefit demands. Lets not forget that stock prices and interest rates have a tremendous affect on any pension plans as well (Enron?).

What do the "neocons" have to do with Matts post? It is the Dem legislature who are fixing to take your money X. And you stood in line all those years because the union paid you to hold the sign. Shame on you !

Posted by: V at June 3, 2008 11:27 AM


Hey, V! Where you been...at some Mitt Romney fundraiser? ...Everyone knows the number is $30b..ask Pioneer http://www.pioneerinstitute.org/contact.php
While your at it, ask them if they are free market oriented, yuk, yuk. Even you wouldn't call Ed Reform a market reform,ask them about vouchers or the lack thereof and how many and how much $$$ their former employees make from Charter schools...and isn't it a remarkable coincidence that they are the charter school gatekeepers..hmmmmm. Let's see maybe Pioneer's libertarian, no that doesn't work...uhhh conservative...no....how about LIBERAL? Classic looters like most privateers...V's friends

Posted by: Mr.X at June 3, 2008 12:13 PM


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1097824

Robbin’ hacks steal from you, give to selves
By Howie Carr
Sunday, June 1, 2008

Posted by: John K at June 3, 2008 08:24 PM


Mr. X;

Mitt has enough money.....he doesn't need mine.

Oh, yeah....your predictions about Hillary were right on the mark, eh? (NOT!)

If "everyone knows the number", why can't it be found anywhere?

I have not given my opinion of ed reform Mr. X. But.....I do live in MA and know all too well that "reform" often costs us more money.

Funny how you accuse someone of being a "classic looter". That made me laugh out loud. Thanks. Sitting at my desk at work this early every day, I need a good laugh.

I just passed 3 union guys, who were supposed to be doing the job of 1, sitting on the tailgate of their truck, watching the 4th guy work. What a scam.

Oh yeah, and the cop who was "on the street" and "out there protecting us" and "being visible in the community" was in his car reading the paper and drinking coffee.

Posted by: V at June 4, 2008 07:12 AM


...and then I looked up into the office buildings and I saw the private managers of the state pension system leaving for Hawaii to discuss investment options and then I saw the HMO presidents meeting to discuss closing some more hospitals and whether premiums should go up 8 or 12% this year so they could get their $1.5 million salaries and then I saw all the mentally ill on the street that were supposd to be taken care of by privatized group homes after the state hospitals were closed and then the land bought at bargain prices to put it softly. And then I wondered, when THE MITTSTER and Deval were still in their first week after taking office, they both vowed to close the Fernald School for the mentlly challenged in Waltham...and then I asked "Is there no decency left in the Commonwealth?" Who will stop the looting?

Posted by: Mr. X at June 4, 2008 08:34 AM


It's the unions who back the election-reelection campaigns of these new robber barons Mr. X.

Posted by: V at June 4, 2008 01:10 PM


V! The people I described above, I saw them all between 1991 and 2006...all R years...no unions, baby, no unions. Get the blinkers off!
I talked to your rulers at Locke Ober's (of course)and they told me how much they appreciate your class warfare on the lower classes which of course distracts people from where the real $$$ is being stolen. They told me they will reward you for your hard work.

Posted by: Mr. X at June 5, 2008 12:45 PM


Mr. Marx, er...X:

You and your "class warfare".

Is it "class warfare" that I'm paying a tremendous amount for health care coverage because illegals can get it free? Is it "class warfare" because unions shill the "living wage" and I have to pay more for services than they are worth? Is it "class warfare" that public housing and public assistance subsist on the taxes that are robbed from me each payday?

Face it X-man, MA is a RAT state and it is the RATS (starting with FDR) who put us where we are.

Posted by: V at June 5, 2008 01:13 PM


No, guys. You're missing the BEST union bill, the Nurse-Staff Ratio Bill the House passed a couple of weeks ago, a glorious example of union-fun. Apparently the Nurses say they're over-worked in the number of patients they have to see a day. So they decided your sickness wasn't really as important as their 'ciggarette after cleaning your poopie pan' break so their unions petitioned for a bill that would set ratios at hospitals across the states. For example, Nurse 1 cannot see anymore than four patients at a time... So the house, in a real shocker, agrees that indeed, post poopie pan ciggarette breaks are more important than you actually getting medical attention, so they voted for state mandated nurse-staff ratios.

The problem with the whole thing is that wasn't the whole idea of this state wide health care thingy to get people more health care? With everyone with insurance, they're actually, uh, going to the hospital. So we've got a problem here, right? More people, less care because the Unions say so. So I guess the ER waiting room is just going to be backed up with insured people as opposed to un-insured. I mean, there's nothing 'emergency' about Emergency room these days anyways. Imagine how much fun it's going to be in a year when everyone has 'free' health insurance and the Nurse's refuse to see you because they're mandated by state law to have to see only 'x'number of people!

This state is a cesspool. I'd move back to North Carolina or even to Bosnia if I could sell my house here...

Posted by: Towney007 at June 5, 2008 07:04 PM


Towney, give me a break...you and Charly "The Annoited One" Baker a.k.a. Revolving Door Charlie a,k.a. The $1.5million HMO man....Did you read about his plan to keep health care costs down? JACK UP the copays, JACKUP the deducts...that way people will be reluctant (i.e. unable to pay) to see a DR. Nice GUY EH?
Also, fewer patients per nurse is agreat idea, Charly B. would have orderlies as subs for nurses...V's friend UGGGHHHH

Posted by: Mr. X at June 6, 2008 08:26 AM


Mr. X;

While fewer patients per nurse may be a great idea, legislating that is anti-market. If you don't like the nurse/patient ratio, go somewhere else. The government should not be in the business of running the health care system.

Why don't you try to read something (Baker has a blog you know) about him, or put a link to your claim (you very seldom do that).

As for Mr. Baker being "V's friend".......oh brother.

Posted by: V at June 6, 2008 11:29 AM


X,

This has nothing to do with health care costs. It has to do with supply and demand.

Donks say that people should have more access to health care. Thus, they want taxpayers to subsidize their health insurance. The train of thought is that if they have health insurance, it'll be affordable and therefore MORE ACCESSIBLE to the general population. If it's more affordable and more accessable (supply), they'll therefore seek it out (demand).. If that's the POINT of subsidized health care, then WHY would you support something as patently absurd as the Nurse Staff Ratio Bill which LIMITS the amount of people that can be seen at one time? You don't think that's self-defeating? Sen. Bouniconti (who is a donk stooge, but right on this issue) agrees with me. It's ok to dislike bad ideas..

On one hand, you're telling them to all show up to the hospital to get their free sh!t, but they've got to wait for the nurse's to finish their mandatory break before they can be seen... That's not Republican-Democrat, union-non union even... that's insanity.

The problem with you socialists is that you seem to want to trick everyone into thinking that by somehow having health insurance, they'll therefore receive more and or better health care but if the nurses aren't actually f-ing obligated to provide that care then what good does the new health insurance do?

Randomly insuring people that don't have it doesn't insure that costs are going down. You're just transferring responsibility for the costs from the hospitals to the tax payers. We're already going to have to find another $900 million magic dollars next year and god knows how much the year after that, and after that, etc. Where's this money going to come from... all the businesses the Donks are bringing to the state (lol)!?

Or maybe you can just keep on bilking the poor people you purport to help by taxing their ciggarettes and lottery tickets (unhealthy habbits is the rationale of the state btw, who are also pushing casino gambling but that's another story).... that'll get 'em ahead!

I'm not too worried about it though. I'm sure the government will surely find 'alternative sources of revenue' by forcefully shaking down some more people.

Posted by: Towney007 at June 6, 2008 06:00 PM